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    Motion to deploy the European Relief Force in Eastern Haane

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    • Spain
      Spain last edited by

      I see no reason to change the Flag Commissioner i she is pulling a great job, a thing Ms. Copala is doing. But thanks for the clarification Councillor van Allen.

      Donald D. Tusk
      Councillor for Spain

      The Kingdom of Spain
      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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        Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

        Harriet Copala is Europe's single biggest war criminal and, honestly, she should be in jail. Therefore, I support Van Halen's amendment, and I would encourage the Internal Affairs Commissioner to consider appointing someone who is less associated with indiscriminately massacring thousands of innocent people. That is, to say, literally anybody else in the entire region.

        I know Juncker feels the need to repay Copala for her support in the Commission elections, and let's face it, he's right to be worried, given what she did to Paul Craticus, but Eastern Haane doesn't need another mass murderer. It doesn't need someone who thinks driving a tank through a refugee camp for a political rally is OK. It doesn't need someone who took part in a bloody coup. We don't want Copala. No Copala. I mean you'd think we couldn't make the situation in Eastern Haane even worse, but here we go.

        Other than that, and obviously the time, I don't have any problem with this.

        Cllr Tupac Shakur

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        • Duxburian Union
          Duxburian Union EU last edited by

          I don't support deploying the ERF until it's actually safe to. That said, I trust the judgment of the four assembled powers and their assessment in the first intervention report is that it is currently safe. I will therefore support this motion if amended to reflect a more realistic date of deployment.

          Wesley Greene
          Councillor of the Duxburian Union

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          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

            I agree to Mr. Greene, but not because of the four assembled powers. I agree because we have seen how guerilla forces rained bullets on Reitzmic soldiers ensuring the security of Kiel and conducting its operations to retrieve refugees.

            Friedrich van Allen
            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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            HM King George
            Monarch

            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
            Prime Minister

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            • Spain
              Spain last edited by

              Councillor Shakur, if I lose my neutrality I'm very sorry but I won't allow any disgusting and fake comments towards me or Harriet Copala. When the Commission was searching for someone to appoint, Harriet Copala was the best candidate we found. Her experience as rough and tough situations like the one we have in Eastern Haane was necessary, and she has proved to be able to manage this kind of situation.

              But something that hurts to me it's that you have accused me with fake statements. I haven't appointed Ms. Copala to lead the Intervention, because that was not of my competence, but I'm appointing her for the ERF Flag Commissioner because I think that we shall give some estability to this really tough operation. And I disagree when you say that I should consider " appointing someone who is less associated with indiscriminately massacring thousands of innocent people. That is, to say, literally anybody else in the entire region", because I know some which ran for Commission and have some dark incidents on their historical records. And finally Councillor Shakur, riding a float tank, not driving. Let's please stop doing false statements, for the sake of the Haaneans and the Europeans. Thank you very much.

              Jean-Claude Juncker
              Commissioner for Internal Affairs

              The Kingdom of Spain
              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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              • M
                Montenbourg EU last edited by

                Heavy as they are, the costs of action must be weighed against the price of inaction. If Eastern Haane defies Europe and we fail to respond, we will face a far greater threat in the future. They are making war on his own people.

                Because we're acting today, it is less likely that we will face these dangers in the future. The European Union has proven that although we are never eager to use force, when we must act in Europe's vital interests, we will do so.

                A war criminal needs to be senteced by the court. Cllr. Shakur, manage that tone.

                Emma Granger
                Councillor for Montenbourg

                🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                  Pravoslaviya EU last edited by Pravoslaviya

                  What's disgusting is the indiscriminate carpet bombing of East Moreland by the war criminal Harriet Copala, who just happens to have been appointed to this role by you, Commissioner Juncker, after she campaigned for you in the elections. And we all know about your violent streak, threatening to throw Edmund Winston off a balcony, but even I'll say that you never killed thousands of people, except indirectly through your failure to stop the war in Eastern Haane. Only Copala did that, at least directly.

                  The people of Eastern Haane don't care about the technicalities of whether you were in a real tank or just a hyper-realistic float, or whether you were riding or driving it - they care that someone who glorifies military violence in the middle of a refugee camp has appointed a mass murderer to be Flag Commissioner for the ERF's deployment to their country. These people have been through enough. They don't need Copala, and if you send Copala, they won't trust the ERF just like they didn't trust the Reitzmag army.

                  Like can't we get Peter Montfort or something? I think he's available. He's done every other job in the region and nobody - well, almost nobody died on his watch.

                  And Commissioner, if you're after a starting point for your anti-racism project, then Cllr Granger just told a black man to watch his tone.

                  Cllr Tupac Shakur

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                  • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                    Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                    Colleagues, let us stop this mess and save it for some other time. We need to be united in this tough challenge that we are facing. This mission is for the sake of the European peoples and we have to set aside our personal anger against each other so that we can achieve our goals for a better and more unified European Union. The people of Eastern Haane are crying for help and we are the ones they are waiting to help them. We, the European Union as a whole, are the hope of everyone. So, I request if we can set aside our arguments for such and focus on the actions we can do to help the Haanean people.

                    Friedrich van Allen
                    Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                    alt text

                    HM King George
                    Monarch

                    Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                    Prime Minister

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                      Montenbourg EU last edited by

                      I’m the least racist person in this room Cllr Shakur. Accomplishments have no color, they are accomplishments; just as a sentence is the thing that determines a war criminal.

                      Eastern Haane can't wait.

                      Emma Granger
                      Councillor for Montenbourg

                      🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                      👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                      🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                      🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                      • Spain
                        Spain last edited by Spain

                        Councillor Shakur, I'm not the competent authority to ask you to cease that comments towards me but I would recommend you to stop on your rude attitudes and focus on the main matter. I'm not racist and telling you to be less rude is not racist, if you consider that a racist attitude then I'm pretty sorry but you have misunderstood what "Racism" really is, nor I think I don't stand my own Anti-Racism plan. I don't want to throw Atty. Winston of a balcony, I asked after a rally of him in Ibiza if he was joining the "Ibizan Balconing Squad", which is a touristic organization which only does balconing. I think there's a huge gap between the Balconing squad and throwing someone from a balcony, but you are making much ado about nothing and that's unrespectful to me, to this Council and to every Haanean who's suffering right now. I'd be ashamed if I was you right now, attacking a Commissioner whose labour is to protect the Europeans, make a better Europe and who is really able to develop his job with the required quality.

                        So please Councillor Shakur, do us a favour and let's focus on the Haaneans. We need to act like I did some months ago, but this time to finally end with the conflict. So please, choose the side of co-operation, the side we all shall be on. Thank you very much.

                        Jean-Claude Juncker
                        Commissioner for Internal Affairs

                        The Kingdom of Spain
                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                        • Inquista
                          Inquista last edited by

                          Debate is now over. Time to vote on amendments. In total there are four proposed amendments. When voting on amendments, please keep in mind that Amendment I and Amendment III clash with one another. The amendments are thus:

                          Amendment I - Proposed by Cllr. Van Allen
                          Section I - DEPLOYMENT
                          I. The European Relief Force will be deployed on Eastern Haane on 22nd October 2020, 09:00 GMT. within 48 hours after this motion has been approved by the European Council.
                          II. The Mission of the European Relief Force will be deploying humanitarian aid in Eastern Haane and helping the civilians.
                          III. The European Relief Force will be leaded by the Flag Commissioner, Harriet Copala, assigned and overseen by the Internal Affairs Commissioner , Jean-Claude Juncker.

                          Amendment II - Proposed by Cllr. Van Allen
                          SECTION II - SECURITY AND SURVEILLANCE BY THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL
                          I. The Security of the European Relief Force will depend of the military deployed in Eastern Haane.
                          II. Until the European Relief Force retires from Eastern Haane, the European Commission shall post a report twice a month week.
                          III. The European Relief Force shall not enter in conflict with civilians.

                          Amendment III - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk
                          SECTION I - DEPLOYMENT
                          I. The European Relief Force will be deployed on Eastern Haane on 22nd October 2020, 09:00 GMT 72 hours after the Motion has been passed by the European Council.
                          II. The Mission of the European Relief Force will be deploying humanitarian aid in Eastern Haane and helping the civilians.
                          III. The European Relief Force will be leaded by the Flag Commissioner, Harriet Copala, and overseen by the current Internal Affairs Commissioner, Jean-Claude Juncker. When a new election takes place, the new Internal Affairs Commissioner will continue the oversee task if the ERF is still deployed on Eastern Haane.

                          Amendment IV - Proposed by Cllr. Tusk
                          SECTION III - RETIREMENT OF THE EUROPEAN RELIEF FORCE FROM EASTERN HAANE
                          I. The European Relief Force shall retire from Eastern Haane if:
                          a) Their security is not guaranteed.
                          b) The European Commission considers their mission is accomplished.
                          c) If the European Council, in an unanimity vote, asks the Commission to retire the European Relief Force.

                          Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 09:00 GMT on October 27th, 2020.


                          I vote FOR Amendments II, III and IV. I vote AGAINST Amendment I.

                          Edward Firoux
                          Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                          siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                          Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                          Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                          Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                            I vote FOR Amendments I, II, and IV and AGAINST Amendment III.

                            Friedrich van Allen
                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                            HM King George
                            Monarch

                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                            Prime Minister

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                            • Spain
                              Spain last edited by

                              I vote FOR amendements II, III and IV and AGAINST amendment I.

                              Donald D. Tusk
                              Councillor for Spain

                              The Kingdom of Spain
                              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                              • Inimicus
                                Inimicus EU last edited by

                                The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR Amendments III and IV, and AGAINST Amendments I and II.

                                The Empire would also like to note that had Amendment I not included changes to section I.III, we would have voted for Amendment I over Amendment IV.

                                Hetty Tilki
                                Empire of Inimicus

                                The Empire of Inimicus
                                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                  FreedomAndMemes last edited by

                                  I vote FOR

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                                  • Nofoaga
                                    Nofoaga EU last edited by

                                    I vote FOR amendements II, III and IV and AGAINST amendment I.

                                    Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                                    EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                                    • Vayinaod
                                      Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                      The Archrepublic of Vayinaod votes FOR Amendments III and IV, and AGAINST Amendments I and II.

                                      Carita Falk

                                      Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                      Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                      EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                      • Leagio
                                        Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                        I vote FOR amendments II ,III, IV. I vote AGAINST amendment I,

                                        Francis Plessis
                                        EU Councilor for Leagio

                                        President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                        Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                        EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                          Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Pravoslaviya, I vote FOR Amendment I, and AGAINST Amendments II, III, and IV.

                                          Cllr Tupac Shakur

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                                            Montenbourg EU last edited by

                                            I vote FOR Amendments II, III and IV. I vote AGAINST Amendment I.

                                            Emma Granger
                                            Councillor for Montenbourg

                                            🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                            👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                            🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                            🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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