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    Motion of ERF Deployment in Itskalen

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    • Leagio
      Leagio ECoJ last edited by Leagio

      Normally I would support motions for an intervention in trouble regions....But the issue I see is that from point of view that Istakalen started the fight by declaring war on everyone in the EU and only retracted it up to Ritzmag. Although, I personally have disagreements on how the current government in Hampton City handled the situation, I do not think that intervention will bring a unified Europe. I think that instead that the EU should send in observers to write a report on the transitional government where we can futherer determine the proper actions on it.

      The problem I see mainly here is if a member-state gets attacked and wins the defensive war, will the EU then dictate what the peace should be for a loss of young soldiers that die and even the property that was damaged (although, from what I understand there hardly was much Ritzmag property damaged), then does that mean the member-state has no right in foreign diplomacy? And if so, then what is the point of being a sovereign nation at all? This does not help the problems in terms of reputation that the EU has at the moment in dealing with individuals who feel that the EU Commission and this Council have been slowly chipping away the rights that they have as sovereign state members and we are seeing it in Angleler. Now, this issue that I mention is an issue that is something that is the fault of one nation but multiple here.

      Back to the motion, I do not think that the EU should have any say in the final look of peace over this one week war. With some of the claims that my fellow Councilor from Ritzmag stated feeling a bit unrealistic or even exagerated. But I go agree that Vaynoid and Ritzmag should handle the situation themselves. If it turns bad, then let it fall on to them and not the EU.

      Francis Plessis
      EU Councilor for Leagio

      President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
      Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
      EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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      • Fremet
        Fremet EU last edited by

        I'm extending the debate until 27 April 2021 at 12h00 GMT.

        Charles Michel
        Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

        Statsminister Erna Solberg
        EU Cllr Charles Michel
        #FortressFremet

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        • M
          Montenbourg EU last edited by

          This motion would bring peace, stability and importantly a long term resolution to the current conflict and instability. Only a joint European force can ensure a peaceful and stable transition, we cannot put again Reitzmag to build another Copala City situation.

          Emma Granger
          Councillor for Montenbourg

          🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
          👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
          🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
          🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

            Ms. Granger, do you even understand what the J-TAI had said? They are independent of any government, including Reitzmag and Vayinaod. If we send the ERF to mess with them again, it would not help in the situation. Ms. Granger, the EU is not necessary in directly involving itself in the situation because the EU only did nothing but make things worst just like in Eastern Haane during Mr. Juncker's Commission.

            Other than that, I would like to request for a debate extension on the matter.

            Yuridiana Yahontov
            Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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            HM King George
            Monarch

            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
            Prime Minister

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            • M
              Montenbourg EU last edited by

              Councillor Yahontov, we all know the incurrencies of your delegation in such matters. This is not Eastern Haane; we do not have Juncker's Comission. This Council is an active one that will push for democracy, not unilateralism. I repeat to the members of this council, fellow friends we cannot have another Copalian situation. We need to act together, and that includes you Councillor Yahontov; Reitzmag cannot act rogue.

              Emma Granger
              Councillor for Montenbourg

              🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
              👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
              🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
              🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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              • Fremet
                Fremet EU last edited by

                Per the request of Councilor Yahontov, the debate will be extended until 3 May 2021 at 12h00 GMT.

                Charles Michel
                Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                Statsminister Erna Solberg
                EU Cllr Charles Michel
                #FortressFremet

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                • Istkalen
                  Istkalen EU last edited by

                  The Government of Istkalen has communicated to me that in the interest of national self-preservation, the carrying out of the Instrument of Surrender, and cooperation with the Joint Transitional Authority of Istkalen, I am bound to vote against this deployment, if I remain able to carry out my duties.

                  Gertrude Echteran
                  Councillor for Istkalen

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                  • Fremet
                    Fremet EU last edited by

                    Debate has ENDED. We will now move to voting to final voting.

                    Final voting begins NOW and ends at 12h00 GMT on 14 May 2021.


                    On behalf of the Republic of Fremet, I vote AGAINST this motion.

                    Charles Michel
                    Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                    Statsminister Erna Solberg
                    EU Cllr Charles Michel
                    #FortressFremet

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                    • Spain
                      Spain last edited by

                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this motion.

                      Donald Tusk
                      Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                      The Kingdom of Spain
                      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                      • Leagio
                        Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                        On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST the Motion.

                        Francis Plessis
                        EU Councilor for Leagio

                        President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                        Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                        EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                        • BrumBrum
                          BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                          On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this motion
                          James Mizrachi-Roscoe, Councillor for United Duchies

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                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by Kingdom of Reitzmag

                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote AGAINST this motion.

                            Yuridiana Yahontov
                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                            HM King George
                            Monarch

                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                            Prime Minister

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                            • Inimicus
                              Inimicus EU last edited by

                              The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR this Motion.

                              Nicholas Benfield

                              The Empire of Inimicus
                              Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                              Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                              Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                              • Nofoaga
                                Nofoaga EU last edited by

                                On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vot FOR this motion.

                                Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                                EU Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                                • M
                                  Montenbourg EU last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote FOR this motion.

                                  Emma Granger
                                  Councillor, Kingdom of Montenbourg

                                  🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                                  👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                                  🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                                  🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                                  • Istkalen
                                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                                    Istkalen needs true help, not the tricking hand of the would-be colonizer. As such, on behalf of the people of Istkalen, their will expressed through the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this motion.

                                    Iras Tilkanas
                                    Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                                    • Fayrrendel
                                      Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

                                      The Realm of Great Ruthund votes AGAINST this motion. Ruthund favors the European Union taking an observer role in the establishment of a transition government, but will not support any attempt to remove J-TAI under the guidance Reitzmag and Vayinaod until a legal government of Istkalen is established.

                                      Tony Odhinazen
                                      EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                                      • Fremet
                                        Fremet EU last edited by

                                        With 6 votes FOR, 4 votes AGAINST, and no Abstentions, the Motion of ERF Deployment in Itskalen has PASSED.

                                        Charles Michel
                                        Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                                        Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                        EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                        #FortressFremet

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                                        • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                          Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                          My fellow councilors, this motion is entirely against a provision of the ERF Act under Section 2 Paragraph 1 that states "The European Relief Force can be deployed into nations post disaster or post conflict at the request of the member nations where operations would be held. The European Relief Force can also deployed during a truce, on condition all parties involved agree." However, as Istkalen is considered a protectorate of Reitzmag and Vayinaod, they shall be the ones to request such operation to be held and not Montenbourg. Therefore, I think that this motion shall be void.

                                          Yuridiana Yahontov
                                          Interim Deputy Councilor, Kingdom of Reitmag

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                                          HM King George
                                          Monarch

                                          Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                          Prime Minister

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                                          • Fremet
                                            Fremet EU last edited by Fremet

                                            Councilor Yahontov, voting has closed. You should have made these objections known during the debate period.

                                            We cannot simply declare a motion "void" after the vote has been completed. I recommend you file a repeal motion immediately, petition the ECOJ, or both.

                                            This session is closed.

                                            Charles Michel
                                            Council Speaker and Councilor for Fremet

                                            Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                            EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                            #FortressFremet

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