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    Amendment to the European Constitution (Emergency Bills) 2021

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    • Inimicus
      Inimicus EU last edited by

      This is a very interesting proposal, and possibly the first proposal from a Reitzmic Councillor which the Empire of Inimicus could find itself supporting. I would ask Cllr Yahontov to provide a more detailed explanation of the rationale behind this Amendment, given that they have not done so. I am particularly interested in the proposed timeframes: why were these chosen, what was the reason for these timeframes rather than shorter or longer periods? The Empire of Inimicus thanks Cllr Yahontov for this proposal.

      Cllr Nicholas Benfield
      Empire of Inimicus

      The Empire of Inimicus
      Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
      Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
      Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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      • Kingdom of Reitzmag
        Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

        First of all, thank you Mr. Benfield for the recognition.

        I'd first like to explain why I proposed this amendment. As we have observed during our past proceedings in the European Council, there have been some proposals that had been implemented already behind the goal timeframe due to the long procedures. As such, there were proposals that became useless because it was no longer necessary at the time it has passed. Therefore, introducing a special classification of proposals with a shorter procedural timeframe is necessary to prevent more situations similar to what I have mentioned.

        Now, I'd like to explain each of the clauses I had proposed to be included under this new part of the European Constitution. Clauses 1 and 2 are completely self-explanatory, so I'll move onto the timeframe in Clause 3. I have proposed that each procedural timeframe be decreased to at least 24 hours and limit the amount of extensions on 2 parts of the procedure for I see that such time is enough for at least 2-3 members of this council to contribute to the debate, vote for amendments, and vote for the proposal. Such time guarantees at least 3 days for an emergency legislation to be implemented if passed. Should these time frames be shorter, it might have more or less just 1 member contributing to the debate, voting on amendments, and voting on the proposal. Such would be undemocratic and that I consider only at least 3 votes on the council to be valid enough for a go-signal. Should the timeframes have been longer, then it would take more than 3 days before a proposal is implemented. And I think that 3 days is too long.

        Clause 4 mainly prevents members of the council from abusing the power of Emergency Legislation. It also prevents legislation that isn't really necessary at the soonest possible time from being rushed and given "special treatment".

        That is all for now. I look forward to further contribution from my fellow members of this assembly.

        Yuridiana Yahontov
        Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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        HM King George
        Monarch

        Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
        Prime Minister

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        • Spain
          Spain last edited by Spain

          Thank you Councillor Yahontov for your proposal.

          I think we all agree with 2 things I am going to mention now: the first one is that the Council procedures take a long time, even if it's necessary for everybody to take part on debates and have enough time to think about what they are going to say or just come here and deliver their speech. And secondly, that the Council procedures are extended more than they should because of several factors, including that I'm alone at the management of the Council right now with the absence of the Speaker. And I'm not blaming the Speaker for being absent, he surely has some reasons to be absent from his job after the late spring events we have had; but I shouldn't be blamed, and I hope I am not, if I cannot attend and hear all the Councillors' proposals at the same time.

          Is this legislation necessary to my point of view? I think it is. Should we expect the new "Emergency bills" to be given priority? Yes we should. But should we expect it if all the Council activity right now relies on the Deputy Speaker and has nobody to help with procedures? There comes my concerns. I would like to hear Cllr. Yahontov thoughts on this and what she thinks that could be done to sort out this institutional crisis we are going through right now. I would also like a clarification on the proposed Section IV, as votings aren't usually extended unless I can't keep up with all the Council proposals influx and maybe, we should look into that.

          Thank you very much.


          Debate starts NOW and will last until 15:56 GMT on September 25th, 2021.

          Donald Tusk
          Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

          The Kingdom of Spain
          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

            Mr. Deputy Speaker, I think you may have spoiled my upcoming amendment to the European Constitution with your question. The solution that I see due to the unstable activity levels in this chamber is to have 2 Deputy Speakers that would work together regardless of the level of activity. I am also looking into the possibility of allowing the deputy speaker(s) to work even if the Speaker is not absent. In these ways, the Council would be more productive despite the situation.

            That is all for now, thank you.

            Yuridiana Yahontov
            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

            alt text

            HM King George
            Monarch

            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
            Prime Minister

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            • Spain
              Spain last edited by Spain

              I see, Councillor Yahontov. And I am looking forward to discuss that proposal in this chamber, so I wish we can have some debate about it now. Also, thank you for answering my concerns, which helped me to decide my position concerning this amendment.


              Debate is now over. Voting begins NOW and will last until 12:11 GMT on September 30th, 2021.


              On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this amendment to the European Constitution.

              Donald Tusk
              Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

              The Kingdom of Spain
              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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              • Gadalland and Aspern
                Gadalland and Aspern EU last edited by

                On behalf of the SIx Unions of Gadalland and Aspern, I vote FOR this amendment.

                Edutitalle Dina
                European Councillor for the Sertian Union

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                • BrumBrum
                  BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                  On behalf of United Duchies I vote FOR this ammendment
                  James Mizrachi-Roscoe , Councillour for United Duchies

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                  • Istkalen
                    Istkalen EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Republic of Istkalen, I vote FOR this amendment.

                    Iras Tilkanas
                    Councillor for the Republic of Istkalen

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                    • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                      Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR this amendment.

                      Yuridiana Yahontov
                      Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                      HM King George
                      Monarch

                      Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                      Prime Minister

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                      • Inimicus
                        Inimicus EU last edited by

                        The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR this Amendment.

                        Cllr Nicholas Benfield

                        The Empire of Inimicus
                        Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                        Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                        Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                        • M
                          Montenbourg EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote FOR this amendment to the European Constitution.

                          Emma Granger,
                          Councillor for Montenbourg

                          🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                          👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                          🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                          🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                          • Spain
                            Spain last edited by Spain

                            Voting has now concluded. With 7 votes FOR and none AGAINST, this amendment to the European Constitution has PASSED.

                            Donald Tusk
                            Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                            The Kingdom of Spain
                            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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