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    REPEAL the Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen Act

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    • Fremet
      Fremet EU last edited by

      By repealing this act, the Union will be giving validity to a violent communist coup and the suppression of freedoms and democracy.

      Until fair and free elections can be held in the presence of European observers, their entry into the union must be blocked.

      To continue on this course of action will provide future precedent to recognise illegitimate governments that seized power from the people and supplanted the duly elected government.

      Not only that, but were this Union to recognise the UNSR and allow its reentry into this body, it would demonstrate a complete lack of resolve to support legitimate governments that have been elected by the people and demonstrate that the only thing an oppressive or illegitimate government needs to do in order to get in the Union's good graces is to last long enough.

      There have been multiple major civil and military actions taken against the duly established governments in their respective countries over the past few weeks. In this time of uncertainty, the Union must support its members and preserve the rule of law across Europe.

      By acknowledging the government in Icholasen, it would establish a grave precedent for how the transition of power should occur in this region. Violence should not be an answer to the question of legitimacy. If the push for a change in government is so strong in a nation that the established powers are overturned in a violent change of power, let it be a revolution of the people. One that can be vilified by fair and free democratic elections afterward, in the presence of verified and objective outside observers.

      The Union must remain firm in its opposition to the illegitimate government in Icholasen.

      My colleague from Vayinaod brings up an interesting point. I concur with the reasoning that, should we have to allow the UNSR to reenter the Union, it should do so without nuclear weapons. A country that has time and again experienced systematic social and political instability, interfered in the geopolitic, and threatened its neighbours with its weapons' terrifying power to destroy, does not deserve to have nuclear weapons. The mere presence of them in a regime that is only accountable to itself is not only dangerous to the regime's enemies, but to the stability of the region itself.

      However, until the UNSR can prove itself to be accountable to its citizenry, my government stands in opposition to it and its reentry into this body.

      Cllr Charles Michel
      Kingdom of Fremet

      Statsminister Erna Solberg
      EU Cllr Charles Michel
      #FortressFremet

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      • Fayrrendel
        Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

        I sympathize with the sentiments my colleague from Fremet expresses, he is right. Until we have proof that the UNSR has taken steps to democratize their system, our response to Regina we must be stern. However neither me or my government cannot sympathize with a people refusing to establish a dialogue merely out of ideological convictions. My country, for a long time, has been called the 'sick man of Europe' and we got out that disaster. We did not get out of a crisis by firmly espousing ideological statements, but by pragmatism and understanding what works and what does not. Ignoring the UNSR, I assure you, will not work.

        I regret telling my colleagues this, but the European Council's refusal to recognize the de facto government will not change the regime. Should the current regime fall, it will be on the terms of the Nicoleizian people alone. I mean this in the most good-natured way possible, but the fact of the matter is the precedent has already been set on how power transitions when the UNSR took over the government apparatus. Our response that some of my colleagues suggest will only make us out to be ideological pariahs to the face of the world.

        If we could work out an agreement with the UNSR on their entry into the European Union, I assure you, Councillors, we will make far more progress on controlling the activities of the current government than what my colleague from Fremet is proposing. The first step in this direction, of course, will be recognizing the UNSR as the legitimate government. Should they not cooperate with the Council, it is entirely appropriate to place sanctions on them.

        On a final note, my government has notified me that whatever policy concerning the UNSR the council decides, Constantinople will comply.

        Su Tefvik
        European Councillor from the Count of Osman

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          Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

          Can I request that we put this motion to a vote?

          Cllr Tupac Shakur

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          • Fayrrendel
            Fayrrendel EU last edited by

            I second the motion

            Su Tevfik
            European Councillor from the Count of Osman

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            • Inquista
              Inquista last edited by

              My apologies. Voting starts NOW and will last until 21:30 GMT on April 10th, 2020.

              Edward Firoux
              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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              • Fayrrendel
                Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                The Ottoman State ABSTAINS to repeal the Condemnation.

                Su Tevfik
                European Councillor from the Count of Osman

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                • The United Kingdom
                  The United Kingdom last edited by

                  The Republic of New Zealand first respects and honours the land of the ancient peoples of Europolis. We welcome their spirits in the guiding of this chamber.

                  I, Helen Clark, on behalf of the Republic of New Zealand, votes AGAINST this legislation.

                  Helen Clark
                  Councillor for the Republic of New Zealand

                  The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland
                  Queen Elizabeth II
                  Prime Minister Gordon Brown
                  Councillor David Miliband

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                  • Fremet
                    Fremet EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I hereby vote AGAINST this legislative action.

                    Charles Michel
                    Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                    Statsminister Erna Solberg
                    EU Cllr Charles Michel
                    #FortressFremet

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                    • ?
                      A Former User last edited by A Former User

                      Under the current circumstances, Eastern Haane cannot support the UNSR regime.

                      As such, on the behalf of the Confederation of Eastern Haane, I, Mathilde Comtois, hereby vote AGAINST this legislative action.

                      Mathilde Comtois
                      Councillor for the Confederation of Eastern Haane

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                      • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                        Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                        On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag and in the name of HM George I and all of the Reitzmen, I ABSTAIN from voting on this repealment.

                        Friedrich van Allen
                        Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

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                        HM King George
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                        Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                        Prime Minister

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                        • Vayinaod
                          Vayinaod EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I hereby vote AGAINST this repeal.

                          Carita Falk
                          Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                          Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                          Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                          EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                          • Icholasen
                            Icholasen EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the United Dominions of Icholasen I vote Against this repeal.

                            Duchess Councillor Poppy Carlton-Romanov
                            The United Dominions of Icholasen

                            The Union of Nicoleizian Socialist Republics
                            Chairman of the Communist Party: Michul Jirluchuz ☭
                            EU Councillor: Poppy Carlton-Romanov (EPA)
                            Korojaunu in Exile: Eilidh Whiteford ☆
                            Monarch in Exile: Queen Anastasia II ♚

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                            • Inquista
                              Inquista last edited by Inquista

                              On behalf of the Most Blessed State of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

                              Edward Firoux
                              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                              • P
                                Pravoslaviya EU last edited by

                                Since apparently we're cool with other councillors owing their offices to coups, I'm going to vote FOR this repeal.

                                Cllr Tupac Shakur

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                                  Czech Slavia EU last edited by Czech Slavia

                                  On behalf of the Democratic Republic of Czech Slavia I vote FOR this repeal.

                                  Václav Kohout
                                  Councillor for Czech Slavia

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                                  • Spain
                                    Spain last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this repeal.

                                    Donald D. Tusk
                                    Councillor for Spain

                                    The Kingdom of Spain
                                    His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                    President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                    Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                    • Inquista
                                      Inquista last edited by

                                      With 2 votes FOR, 7 votes AGAINST and 2 votes ABSTAINING, this repeal has FAILED.

                                      The Condemnation of the Coup in Icholasen motion still stands.

                                      Edward Firoux
                                      Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                                      siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                      Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                      Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                      Councillor Karinn Lallana

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