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    Amendment to the Constitution for the Neutralization of the Council Speaker and Deputy Speaker

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    • Leagio
      Leagio ECoJ last edited by

      I must agree with Councilor Azaya Dubecq, Councilor Van Allen. I must urge you to keep your sense of sanity and reality.

      Although, i understand the purpose of this amendment to avoid bias partisanship, I do not think that such an amendment is necessary. I think that many members of this Council would say that their nation's legislative branch that contains a speaker that is of a political group. There are many issues with this amendment that i feel that i must address.

      First and this is something that i should mention as i believe other members in this body, including the Speaker himself, have mentioned. This amendment is something that I feel is just an attack against Speaker Firoux. I understand that you have, as the younger generations say, a beef with the Councilor from Inquista but this amendment is not the way to go at all.

      Second, I do not know a legislative body on this plane of reality that places term limits on a position that a legislative body elects that ensures that it is sailing smoothly. I know some Territories and States in Leagio that place term limits on legislative members, but not on the title of Speaker; mainly because that they are already an elected official that might have term limits. None of the legislative branches that i witnessed or read about prevent an individual from being affiliated with a friendly political group.

      I must at this point state that i am against the Amendment for i find it to be unnecessary, redundant, and aggressive towards one individual.

      Francis Plessis
      Eu Councilor for Leagio

      President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
      Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
      EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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      • Fayrrendel
        Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

        Councillor Helhuan stands up, and opens up a folder. She spends one split moment to peer over notes and then sighs

        This might be an unpopular opinion in the Council, considering most of you are EPA members-- surprise, surprise, by the way, that this legislation is not well received. But anyways, I do actually think that Councillor Van Allen's Amendment does have some merit and touches on some problems that the EU Council is plagued by. That being said, there is one thing in this piece of legislation that I do not think is necessary. For example, this Amendment reduces a Speaker's term to 6 months. Why? I do not see the need to reducing the office's term if we are already weakening the position to begin with. And more importantly, isn't 18 months a short term to begin with? Council meetings do not need to be cluttered up by constant Speaker elections.

        Similarly, term limits may sound like a good idea at first, but I ask the Councillor from Reitzmag what that will truly accomplish. Even if the current Speaker is removed, it is likely that an EPA candidate will take his place. And to the eye of an ELDR Councillor, I assume that this change will bear little distinction. No, term limits are simply not practical for this Council.

        Next I would also like to address some of Councillor Firoux's points. The speaker claims that we are all equals in this Council, but is that really true Mr. Speaker? Because the Speaker has obligations and responsibilities that not every Councillor has. If I remember correctly, the Speaker has the power to remove people from the chamber. Now if I am having a bad day in the chamber, I will confess that I wish I had that power, but I don't. Because I am not the Speaker, but Mr. Firoux is. So no, we are not all equal. It is crucial that the Speaker act with impartiality and fairness. And if being in a Eurogroup gets in the way, I cannot help but say that Mr. Van Allen has a point.

        Perhaps the strongest argument the Speaker brings forth is concerning the constituencies going unrepresented. Political Groups are not the sole factor in electing a Councillor-- we should keep this in mind. Correct me if I am wrong but as far as I can tell, the Speaker still can vote on behalf of its constituency. I am not in a Political Group, Mr. Speaker. And I am doing quite fine representing the Ruthenish people. The only agenda I see being hindered is the maintenance of EPA hegemony in the Council.

        Overall however, I am in support of this Amendment. Should the 18 month term with no term limits be reinstated, you will have my full support.

        Helhuan Zihuruthstukur
        EU Councillor, Ruthund

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        • Kingdom of Reitzmag
          Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

          I am happy to see that someone in this chamber understands my point. And I am glad if the honorable gentleman from Ruthund will submit an amendment for this.

          Friedrich van Allen
          Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

          alt text

          HM King George
          Monarch

          Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
          Prime Minister

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          • Fayrrendel
            Fayrrendel EU last edited by

            Amendment I-- Authored by Cllr. Helhuan

            Section IV. Speaker of the European Council

            IV. The Speaker is elected for a period of eighteen months with unlimited terms 6 months with a limit of 3 terms. There is a seven day period for nominations and debate, followed by a seven day period for voting. Voting shall follow the Alternative Vote system.

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            • Inquista
              Inquista last edited by

              Debate has now closed. It is time to vote on amendments. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 09:15 GMT on August 16th, 2020.

              There is one amendment, proposed by Councillor Helhuan:

              Amendment I
              Section IV. Speaker of the European Council
              IV. The Speaker is elected for a period of eighteen months with unlimited terms 6 months with a limit of 3 terms. There is a seven day period for nominations and debate, followed by a seven day period for voting. Voting shall follow the Alternative Vote system.


              I vote FOR the amendment.

              Edward Firoux
              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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              • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                I vote FOR the amendment.

                Friedrich van Allen
                Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                alt text

                HM King George
                Monarch

                Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                Prime Minister

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                • Spain
                  Spain last edited by

                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR the amendment proposed by Cllr. Helhuan.

                  Donald D. Tusk
                  Councillor for Spain

                  The Kingdom of Spain
                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                  • M
                    Montenbourg EU last edited by Montenbourg

                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote FOR the amendment proposed by Cllr. Helhuan.

                    Emma Granger
                    Councillor for Montenbourg

                    🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                    👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                    🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                    🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                    • Fremet
                      Fremet EU last edited by

                      On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote FOR the Amendment.

                      Charles Michel
                      Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                      Statsminister Erna Solberg
                      EU Cllr Charles Michel
                      #FortressFremet

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                      • Fayrrendel
                        Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

                        On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote FOR all amendments

                        Helhuan Zihuruthstukur
                        EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                        • Vayinaod
                          Vayinaod EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR the amendment.

                          Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                          Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                          EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                          • Nofoaga
                            Nofoaga EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the Republic Nofoaga I vote FOR this amendment.

                            Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                            EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                            • Mennrimiak
                              Mennrimiak EU last edited by

                              On behalf of the United Kingdoms of Mennrimiak i vote AGANIST the amendment

                              Adam Karlssen
                              Councillor for Mennrimiak


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                              • Inquista
                                Inquista last edited by Inquista

                                With 8 votes for and 1 vote against, Councillor Helhuan's amendment has passed. The legislation has been updated to reflect the passed amendment.

                                Final voting begins NOW and will last until 21:00 GMT on August 19th, 2020.


                                On behalf of the Microstate of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                Edward Firoux
                                Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                                siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                                Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                                Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                                Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                                • Spain
                                  Spain last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                  Donald D. Tusk
                                  Councillor for Spain

                                  The Kingdom of Spain
                                  His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                  President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                  Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                  • Fremet
                                    Fremet EU last edited by Fremet

                                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                    Charles Michel
                                    Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                    Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                    EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                    #FortressFremet

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                                    • Nofoaga
                                      Nofoaga EU last edited by Nofoaga

                                      On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                      Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                                      EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                                      • Vayinaod
                                        Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                        Carita Falk
                                        Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                        • Fayrrendel
                                          Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote FOR this admendment.

                                          Helhuan Zihuruthstukur
                                          EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                                          • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                            Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                            Friedrich van Allen
                                            Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                                            alt text

                                            HM King George
                                            Monarch

                                            Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                            Prime Minister

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