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    Amendment to the Constitution for the Neutralization of the Council Speaker and Deputy Speaker

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    • Fayrrendel
      Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

      Councillor Helhuan stands up, and opens up a folder. She spends one split moment to peer over notes and then sighs

      This might be an unpopular opinion in the Council, considering most of you are EPA members-- surprise, surprise, by the way, that this legislation is not well received. But anyways, I do actually think that Councillor Van Allen's Amendment does have some merit and touches on some problems that the EU Council is plagued by. That being said, there is one thing in this piece of legislation that I do not think is necessary. For example, this Amendment reduces a Speaker's term to 6 months. Why? I do not see the need to reducing the office's term if we are already weakening the position to begin with. And more importantly, isn't 18 months a short term to begin with? Council meetings do not need to be cluttered up by constant Speaker elections.

      Similarly, term limits may sound like a good idea at first, but I ask the Councillor from Reitzmag what that will truly accomplish. Even if the current Speaker is removed, it is likely that an EPA candidate will take his place. And to the eye of an ELDR Councillor, I assume that this change will bear little distinction. No, term limits are simply not practical for this Council.

      Next I would also like to address some of Councillor Firoux's points. The speaker claims that we are all equals in this Council, but is that really true Mr. Speaker? Because the Speaker has obligations and responsibilities that not every Councillor has. If I remember correctly, the Speaker has the power to remove people from the chamber. Now if I am having a bad day in the chamber, I will confess that I wish I had that power, but I don't. Because I am not the Speaker, but Mr. Firoux is. So no, we are not all equal. It is crucial that the Speaker act with impartiality and fairness. And if being in a Eurogroup gets in the way, I cannot help but say that Mr. Van Allen has a point.

      Perhaps the strongest argument the Speaker brings forth is concerning the constituencies going unrepresented. Political Groups are not the sole factor in electing a Councillor-- we should keep this in mind. Correct me if I am wrong but as far as I can tell, the Speaker still can vote on behalf of its constituency. I am not in a Political Group, Mr. Speaker. And I am doing quite fine representing the Ruthenish people. The only agenda I see being hindered is the maintenance of EPA hegemony in the Council.

      Overall however, I am in support of this Amendment. Should the 18 month term with no term limits be reinstated, you will have my full support.

      Helhuan Zihuruthstukur
      EU Councillor, Ruthund

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      • Kingdom of Reitzmag
        Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

        I am happy to see that someone in this chamber understands my point. And I am glad if the honorable gentleman from Ruthund will submit an amendment for this.

        Friedrich van Allen
        Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

        alt text

        HM King George
        Monarch

        Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
        Prime Minister

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        • Fayrrendel
          Fayrrendel EU last edited by

          Amendment I-- Authored by Cllr. Helhuan

          Section IV. Speaker of the European Council

          IV. The Speaker is elected for a period of eighteen months with unlimited terms 6 months with a limit of 3 terms. There is a seven day period for nominations and debate, followed by a seven day period for voting. Voting shall follow the Alternative Vote system.

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          • Inquista
            Inquista last edited by

            Debate has now closed. It is time to vote on amendments. Voting on amendments begins NOW and will last until 09:15 GMT on August 16th, 2020.

            There is one amendment, proposed by Councillor Helhuan:

            Amendment I
            Section IV. Speaker of the European Council
            IV. The Speaker is elected for a period of eighteen months with unlimited terms 6 months with a limit of 3 terms. There is a seven day period for nominations and debate, followed by a seven day period for voting. Voting shall follow the Alternative Vote system.


            I vote FOR the amendment.

            Edward Firoux
            Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

            siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
            Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
            Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
            Councillor Karinn Lallana

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            • Kingdom of Reitzmag
              Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

              I vote FOR the amendment.

              Friedrich van Allen
              Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

              alt text

              HM King George
              Monarch

              Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
              Prime Minister

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              • Spain
                Spain last edited by

                On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR the amendment proposed by Cllr. Helhuan.

                Donald D. Tusk
                Councillor for Spain

                The Kingdom of Spain
                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                • M
                  Montenbourg EU last edited by Montenbourg

                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Montenbourg, I vote FOR the amendment proposed by Cllr. Helhuan.

                  Emma Granger
                  Councillor for Montenbourg

                  🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                  👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                  🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                  🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                  • Fremet
                    Fremet EU last edited by

                    On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote FOR the Amendment.

                    Charles Michel
                    Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                    Statsminister Erna Solberg
                    EU Cllr Charles Michel
                    #FortressFremet

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                    • Fayrrendel
                      Fayrrendel EU last edited by Fayrrendel

                      On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote FOR all amendments

                      Helhuan Zihuruthstukur
                      EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                      • Vayinaod
                        Vayinaod EU last edited by

                        On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote FOR the amendment.

                        Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                        Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                        EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                        • Nofoaga
                          Nofoaga EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Republic Nofoaga I vote FOR this amendment.

                          Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                          EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                          • Mennrimiak
                            Mennrimiak EU last edited by

                            On behalf of the United Kingdoms of Mennrimiak i vote AGANIST the amendment

                            Adam Karlssen
                            Councillor for Mennrimiak


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                            • Inquista
                              Inquista last edited by Inquista

                              With 8 votes for and 1 vote against, Councillor Helhuan's amendment has passed. The legislation has been updated to reflect the passed amendment.

                              Final voting begins NOW and will last until 21:00 GMT on August 19th, 2020.


                              On behalf of the Microstate of Inquista, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                              Edward Firoux
                              Council Speaker and Councillor for Inquista

                              siggy.png The Most Blessed State of Inquista
                              Archbishop Mikaela Kligenberg
                              Chief Bishop Secretary Edward Firoux
                              Councillor Karinn Lallana

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                              • Spain
                                Spain last edited by

                                On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                Donald D. Tusk
                                Councillor for Spain

                                The Kingdom of Spain
                                His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                                • Fremet
                                  Fremet EU last edited by Fremet

                                  On behalf of the Kingdom of Fremet, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                  Charles Michel
                                  Councillor for the Kingdom of Fremet

                                  Statsminister Erna Solberg
                                  EU Cllr Charles Michel
                                  #FortressFremet

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                                  • Nofoaga
                                    Nofoaga EU last edited by Nofoaga

                                    On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                    Mrs. Azaya Dubecq
                                    EU Councilor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                                    • Vayinaod
                                      Vayinaod EU last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Archrepublic of Vayinaod, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                      Carita Falk
                                      Archrepublic of Vayinaod

                                      Arch-Konsul: Kristian Nylund (Greens)
                                      Ruling Coalition: Greens, Moderates
                                      EU Councillor : Carita Falk (Greens-Independent)

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                                      • Fayrrendel
                                        Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote FOR this admendment.

                                        Helhuan Zihuruthstukur
                                        EU Councillor, Ruthund

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                                        • Kingdom of Reitzmag
                                          Kingdom of Reitzmag Eurocorps last edited by

                                          On behalf of the Kingdom of Reitzmag, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                          Friedrich van Allen
                                          Councilor, Kingdom of Reitzmag

                                          alt text

                                          HM King George
                                          Monarch

                                          Sir Simon Bridges GCB KCMG GCT MP
                                          Prime Minister

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                                          • Mennrimiak
                                            Mennrimiak EU last edited by

                                            On behalf of the United Kingdoms of Mennrimiak, I vote AGANIST this amendment.

                                            Adam Karlssen
                                            Councillor for Mennrimiak


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