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    Amendment to the European and Accountable Council Act 2020

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    • BrumBrum
      BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

      The purpose is to give sovreignty to a nation in how they elect a councillour. What difference does it make if the election is popular vote or being elected by democratically elected members. Either way citizens have input in the selection or can punish parties if they put a bad councillour in power.

      Skye Hook
      Deputy Councillour for United Duchies

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      • BrumBrum
        BrumBrum Commission last edited by BrumBrum

        Ammmendment proposal 2:

        SECTION I. DEMOCRATIZATION OF THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL
        I. All members of the European Council, also known as Councillors, shall be directly and democratically elected or confirmed by an elected body or bodies to achieve office.These shall be held within 4 months of joining.
        II. The governments of European Union member states may not appoint or dismiss their Councillor without following an official democratic process outlined in this Act. if they accomplish with the following prerequisite mentioned in this Act.

        SECTION II. PREREQUISITE TO AVOID COUNCILLOR ELECTION
        I. Member states willing to avert councillor elections shall have stayed in the European Union for at least 12 months.

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        • Spain
          Spain last edited by

          Councillor, I think you are not understanding the matter correctly, and that's something which also happened to my friend Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe to whom I wish a speedy recovery. What you have just proposed in your first amendment is literally a clearance for dictatorships to designate a Councillor without listening to their citizens. The European Union, we as Councillors can't allow dictatorship or undemocratic states to have a go on not listening to the people. What would the European Union be then? Our values, common values are simple: equality, democracy, freedom, solidarity, empathy. We shan't betray those values, and I ask Councillors to vote against Cllr. Hook's amendments.

          Furthermore, this does not just betray our values. The second amendment is pointless, and again, gives clearance to undemocratic states to avoid going through this very uncomfortable process for them. While they join and prepare everything, 4 months can easily pass and oh wait, they wouldn't need to hold them. That would be a total disaster for the European Union and giving freedom to those that doesn't. And that is something we, as democrats, can't allow to happen in our region.

          Donald Tusk
          Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

          The Kingdom of Spain
          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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          • BrumBrum
            BrumBrum Commission last edited by

            With all due respect Cllr.Tusk I think you are misunderstanding the two ammendments together would still require an election or confirmation vote by elected legislators. This way indirect democracy is allowed while stopping pure appointments. The way your ammendment is written we would still be forcing new nations to go EU's way or the high way like Alkharya had to. This could put off european nations from joining as they have to change the way they elect officials. The EU should not be forcing its version of democracy on a nation.

            Skye Hook

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            • Spain
              Spain last edited by

              Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. Voting on amendments will last until 22:16 GMT on March 11th, 2021.

              There are two amendments, both proposed by Deputy Councillor Hook:

              Amendment I - Proposed by Deputy Cllr. Hook
              SECTION III. COUNCILLOR ELECTION PROCESSES
              I. Councillors from new member states may only take their office within the European Council after satisfying a democratic processes in which all following conditions are met:
              a) An election by popular vote of the people or by a democratically elected legislature or legislatures has took place.
              b) The electorate directly voted for Councillor candidates on their ballot(s);
              c) Suffrage was universal and equal to all citizens that were of the legal voting age;
              b) The election process was generally seen as free and fair;
              c) Candidates for Councillor were able to freely nominate themselves;
              d) They successfully received the most votes at the end of the official voting process.
              II. New member states shall be responsible for organizing, monitoring and fulfilling their own Councillor elections. New member states shall also be allowed to freely design and implement their own democratic procedures, rules and processes for electing their Councillor as long as all conditions for choosing a successful Councillor in Clause I of this Section are met.
              III. Councillor elections must be regular and must occur at least once every four years.
              IV. It is encouraged that member states elect their Councillor one month after they elect their national legislatures, or they elect their Councillor during the official European Council Election period.

              Amendment II - Proposed by Deputy Cllr. Hook
              SECTION I. DEMOCRATIZATION OF THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL
              I. The governments of European Union member states may not appoint or dismiss their Councillor if they accomplish with the following prerequisite mentioned in this Act.

              SECTION II. PREREQUISITE TO AVOID COUNCILLOR ELECTION
              I. Member states willing to avert councillor elections shall have stayed in the European Union for at least 12 months.


              I vote AGAINST both amendments.

              Donald Tusk
              Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

              The Kingdom of Spain
              His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
              President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
              Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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              • Leagio
                Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                Francis Plessis
                EU Councilor for Leagio

                President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                • BrumBrum
                  BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                  On behalf of United Duchies I vote for both ammendments
                  Skye Hook , Deputy Councillour for United Duchies

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                  • Inimicus
                    Inimicus EU last edited by

                    The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR both amendments.

                    Interim Cllr Nicholas Benfield

                    The Empire of Inimicus
                    Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                    Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                    Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                    • Fayrrendel
                      Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                      On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote FOR both Amendments.

                      Tony Odhinazen
                      EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                        Montenbourg EU last edited by

                        I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                        Emma Granger
                        Councillor for Montenbourg

                        🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                        👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                        🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                        🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                        • Nofoaga
                          Nofoaga EU last edited by

                          On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                          Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                          EU-Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                          • Spain
                            Spain last edited by Spain

                            Voting on amendments has now concluded.

                            With 3 votes FOR and 4 votes AGAINST, Amendments I and II have FAILED.

                            Final voting begins NOW and will last until 22:16 GMT on March 14th, 2021.


                            On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this amendment.

                            Donald Tusk
                            Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                            The Kingdom of Spain
                            His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                            President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                            Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                            • BrumBrum
                              BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                              On behalf of United Duchies I vote for the this ammendment
                              Skye Hook , Deputy Councillour for United Duchies

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                              • Inimicus
                                Inimicus EU last edited by

                                Without Cllr Hook's amendments, the Empire of Inimicus sees no choice but to vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                Cllr Nicholas Benfield

                                The Empire of Inimicus
                                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                                • Fayrrendel
                                  Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                  Tony Odhinazen
                                  EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                                    Alkharya EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the Alkharyan Republic, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                    Metin Fazlı
                                    European Councillor of the Alkharyan Republic

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                                    • Leagio
                                      Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                      On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                      Francis Plessis
                                      EU Councilor for Leagio

                                      President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                      Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                      EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                      • Mennrimiak
                                        Mennrimiak EU last edited by

                                        On behalf of the United Kingdoms of Mennrimiak, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                        Karl Henderssen
                                        Interim Councillor for Mennrimiak


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                                        • Spain
                                          Spain last edited by

                                          Voting has now concluded. With 4 votes FOR and 3 votes AGAINST, this amendment has PASSED.

                                          Donald Tusk
                                          Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                          The Kingdom of Spain
                                          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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