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    Amendment to the European and Accountable Council Act 2020

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    • Spain
      Spain last edited by

      Councillor, I think you are not understanding the matter correctly, and that's something which also happened to my friend Cllr. Mizrachi-Roscoe to whom I wish a speedy recovery. What you have just proposed in your first amendment is literally a clearance for dictatorships to designate a Councillor without listening to their citizens. The European Union, we as Councillors can't allow dictatorship or undemocratic states to have a go on not listening to the people. What would the European Union be then? Our values, common values are simple: equality, democracy, freedom, solidarity, empathy. We shan't betray those values, and I ask Councillors to vote against Cllr. Hook's amendments.

      Furthermore, this does not just betray our values. The second amendment is pointless, and again, gives clearance to undemocratic states to avoid going through this very uncomfortable process for them. While they join and prepare everything, 4 months can easily pass and oh wait, they wouldn't need to hold them. That would be a total disaster for the European Union and giving freedom to those that doesn't. And that is something we, as democrats, can't allow to happen in our region.

      Donald Tusk
      Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

      The Kingdom of Spain
      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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      • BrumBrum
        BrumBrum Commission last edited by

        With all due respect Cllr.Tusk I think you are misunderstanding the two ammendments together would still require an election or confirmation vote by elected legislators. This way indirect democracy is allowed while stopping pure appointments. The way your ammendment is written we would still be forcing new nations to go EU's way or the high way like Alkharya had to. This could put off european nations from joining as they have to change the way they elect officials. The EU should not be forcing its version of democracy on a nation.

        Skye Hook

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        • Spain
          Spain last edited by

          Debate is now over. It is time to vote on amendments. Voting on amendments will last until 22:16 GMT on March 11th, 2021.

          There are two amendments, both proposed by Deputy Councillor Hook:

          Amendment I - Proposed by Deputy Cllr. Hook
          SECTION III. COUNCILLOR ELECTION PROCESSES
          I. Councillors from new member states may only take their office within the European Council after satisfying a democratic processes in which all following conditions are met:
          a) An election by popular vote of the people or by a democratically elected legislature or legislatures has took place.
          b) The electorate directly voted for Councillor candidates on their ballot(s);
          c) Suffrage was universal and equal to all citizens that were of the legal voting age;
          b) The election process was generally seen as free and fair;
          c) Candidates for Councillor were able to freely nominate themselves;
          d) They successfully received the most votes at the end of the official voting process.
          II. New member states shall be responsible for organizing, monitoring and fulfilling their own Councillor elections. New member states shall also be allowed to freely design and implement their own democratic procedures, rules and processes for electing their Councillor as long as all conditions for choosing a successful Councillor in Clause I of this Section are met.
          III. Councillor elections must be regular and must occur at least once every four years.
          IV. It is encouraged that member states elect their Councillor one month after they elect their national legislatures, or they elect their Councillor during the official European Council Election period.

          Amendment II - Proposed by Deputy Cllr. Hook
          SECTION I. DEMOCRATIZATION OF THE EUROPEAN COUNCIL
          I. The governments of European Union member states may not appoint or dismiss their Councillor if they accomplish with the following prerequisite mentioned in this Act.

          SECTION II. PREREQUISITE TO AVOID COUNCILLOR ELECTION
          I. Member states willing to avert councillor elections shall have stayed in the European Union for at least 12 months.


          I vote AGAINST both amendments.

          Donald Tusk
          Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

          The Kingdom of Spain
          His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
          President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
          Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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          • Leagio
            Leagio ECoJ last edited by

            On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote AGAINST both amendments.

            Francis Plessis
            EU Councilor for Leagio

            President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
            Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
            EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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            • BrumBrum
              BrumBrum Commission last edited by

              On behalf of United Duchies I vote for both ammendments
              Skye Hook , Deputy Councillour for United Duchies

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              • Inimicus
                Inimicus EU last edited by

                The Empire of Inimicus votes FOR both amendments.

                Interim Cllr Nicholas Benfield

                The Empire of Inimicus
                Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                • Fayrrendel
                  Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                  On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote FOR both Amendments.

                  Tony Odhinazen
                  EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                    Montenbourg EU last edited by

                    I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                    Emma Granger
                    Councillor for Montenbourg

                    🇩🇰 The Kingdom of Montenbourg
                    👑HM Victoria the First, Queen of Montenbourg
                    🏛️PM Rt. Hon. Birgitte Nyborg
                    🌟 Councillor Emma Granger.

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                    • Nofoaga
                      Nofoaga EU last edited by

                      On behalf of the Republic of Nofoaga, I vote AGAINST both amendments.

                      Mrs. Paul-Gabrielle Muzhare
                      EU-Councillor for the Republic of Nofoaga

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                      • Spain
                        Spain last edited by Spain

                        Voting on amendments has now concluded.

                        With 3 votes FOR and 4 votes AGAINST, Amendments I and II have FAILED.

                        Final voting begins NOW and will last until 22:16 GMT on March 14th, 2021.


                        On behalf of the Kingdom of Spain, I vote FOR this amendment.

                        Donald Tusk
                        Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                        The Kingdom of Spain
                        His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                        President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                        Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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                        • BrumBrum
                          BrumBrum Commission last edited by

                          On behalf of United Duchies I vote for the this ammendment
                          Skye Hook , Deputy Councillour for United Duchies

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                          • Inimicus
                            Inimicus EU last edited by

                            Without Cllr Hook's amendments, the Empire of Inimicus sees no choice but to vote AGAINST this amendment.

                            Cllr Nicholas Benfield

                            The Empire of Inimicus
                            Head of State/Government: Emperor Artabanos (EU Hall of Fame 2021)
                            Vicarius (Deputy): Wilfred Cocx
                            Deputy Speaker of the European Council: Nicholas Benfield

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                            • Fayrrendel
                              Fayrrendel EU last edited by

                              On behalf of the Realm of Great Ruthund, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                              Tony Odhinazen
                              EU Councilor, Ruthund

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                                Alkharya EU last edited by

                                On behalf of the Alkharyan Republic, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                Metin Fazlı
                                European Councillor of the Alkharyan Republic

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                                • Leagio
                                  Leagio ECoJ last edited by

                                  On behalf of the Commonwealth of Leagio, I vote FOR this amendment.

                                  Francis Plessis
                                  EU Councilor for Leagio

                                  President of the Commonwealth: Ran Mouri-Kudo (Progressive Alliance Party)
                                  Governor-General of the Commonwealth: Magic Kaito (Leagioan Pact of Democracy)
                                  EU Councilor for Leagio: Francis Plessis (CPP/ EDLR)

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                                  • Mennrimiak
                                    Mennrimiak EU last edited by

                                    On behalf of the United Kingdoms of Mennrimiak, I vote AGAINST this amendment.

                                    Karl Henderssen
                                    Interim Councillor for Mennrimiak


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                                    • Spain
                                      Spain last edited by

                                      Voting has now concluded. With 4 votes FOR and 3 votes AGAINST, this amendment has PASSED.

                                      Donald Tusk
                                      Deputy Speaker and Councillor for Spain

                                      The Kingdom of Spain
                                      His Majesty the King, Felipe VI
                                      President Alberto Núñez-Feijóo
                                      Councillor and Council Speaker Donald Tusk

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